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  Some people who were important to Russell

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have compiled a file that comprises pen-pictures of about twelve people mentioned by charles taze russell in his publications.

  they either influenced russell, worked alongside him, or were influenced by him.

  from their pages, they bring us a better understanding of that intense period.. http://www.jwstudies.com/people_important_to_russell.pdf.

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  Doug Mason

  slimboyfat,

  I have no idea, sorry.

  When I did a "Google" with:

  Russell Zionist Rothschild

  any number of responses came up, but I did not know if any is reliable or verifiable, or whether they simply fed off one another.

  Doug
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  Paul's Letters came first and the Gospel response was a refutation

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if you pick up your bible and look at the order of the books in the new testament you'll find that the gospels come before paul's letters.. this might casually indicate to the unaware that the gospel writers actually wrote before paul.

  paul's letters containing paul's remarkable theology came first.

  (chronologically).

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  Doug Mason

  Terry,

  I sincerely hope you have read all of the book that the following comes from.

  Doug
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  Since Paul died in 64 C.E., we need to recognize that all of Paul's authentic letters were written prior to this crucial seventieth year. This means that the epistles known as 1 and 2 Thessalonians, Galatians, 1 and 2 Corinthians, Romans, Philippians, and Philemon are for certain placed prior to 70 CE. Colossians and Ephesians, which are debated as Pauline originals, could also be placed on the far side of 70, even if their actual Pauline authorship is finally denied. This dating, however, would not be universally saluted.

  The only gospel in existence prior to 70 is believed to be Mark. It is generally dated in a range from 64 to 72, with consensus falling in the year 69 or 70, or just prior to the cataclysmic events of that seventieth year.

  There is a strong, but neither universally recognized nor even an in-the-majority, tradition that the epistle to the Hebrews might also be a pre-70 literary work; but if so, that would complete the list of New Testament writings that arguably could be placed on the calendar prior to the year 70 CE.

  The other three Gospels (Matthew, Luke, and John), the pseudo Pauline epistles (1 and 2 Timothy and Titus), the General Epistles (1 and 2 Peter, 1, 2, and 3 John, Jude, and James), the Book of Acts, and the Book of Revelation are all quite clearly post-70 literary works. Each of these books in some way reveals, however, that it was written under the impact of the events of that crucial year.

  “Liberating the Gospels: Reading the Bible with Jewish Eyes”, (chapter: “How these Jewish books became Gentile captives”), page 40, John Shelby Spong.
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  Some people who were important to Russell

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have compiled a file that comprises pen-pictures of about twelve people mentioned by charles taze russell in his publications.

  they either influenced russell, worked alongside him, or were influenced by him.

  from their pages, they bring us a better understanding of that intense period.. http://www.jwstudies.com/people_important_to_russell.pdf.

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  Doug Mason

  cameo-d,

  If you are looking for common denominators, I suggest they might include:

  People thinking they can calculate the date of Christ's Coming.

  Jumping around the Bible, using it as a (flat) chess board and super-gluing unrelated verses. (Knight-jump "exegesis" - like the horse in chess that jumps from a black square to a white one, ignoring all obstacles in between.)

  Thinking that Bible writers were writing of the reader's times.

  Using the current newspapers to interpret Scripture ("Turkey" during the 19th century, for example).

  People wanting to feel secure of the future.

  Thinking that the only way to solve today's problems requires divine intervention.

  Suckers taken in by good oratory.

  Ignoring the fact that throughout history, every prediction has failed - and thus people keep repeating those mistakes.

  Others can probably think of more.

  Doug
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  Some people who were important to Russell

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have compiled a file that comprises pen-pictures of about twelve people mentioned by charles taze russell in his publications.

  they either influenced russell, worked alongside him, or were influenced by him.

  from their pages, they bring us a better understanding of that intense period.. http://www.jwstudies.com/people_important_to_russell.pdf.

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  Doug Mason

  cameo-d,

  Are you looking for people who started religions that look like the WTS?

  Or are you looking for all of the splinter groups that formed following his death? (Good luck if you are.)

  Or are you looking for people (such as Henninges) who split from the WTS/CTR while he was still alive?

  Or are you interested in showing that Rutherford was an illegitimate heir?

  Or are you seeking to identify all of the heirs to Miller (1830s/1840s)?

  Interestingly, just as the WTS today points (vaguely nowadays) to 1914, CTR of course pointed to 1874, a date that they kept until about 1930.

  And the date that the eschatologists of the 19th century consistently pointed to was 1798.

  While Miller pointed to 1843 (the 1844), others pointed to dates in the 1860s and then some opted for 1873. As you well know, Barbour, Paton and Russell opted for 1874.

  Brown in 1823 (and again in 1827) pointed to 1917; Charles Wesley pointed to a date in the 1790s.

  They were all wrong, so the WTS is in good company.

  Doug
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  Some people who were important to Russell

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have compiled a file that comprises pen-pictures of about twelve people mentioned by charles taze russell in his publications.

  they either influenced russell, worked alongside him, or were influenced by him.

  from their pages, they bring us a better understanding of that intense period.. http://www.jwstudies.com/people_important_to_russell.pdf.

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  Doug Mason

  Hi cameo-d,

  For you, I have uploaded the file to:

  http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=bc14a9e34c17137dab942cd86be8ecde

  - wait for 25 seconds for the "Download" button to appear.

  If you still have problems, go to my web site for my email address, and I can send it to you on a CD.

  Doug
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  Some people who were important to Russell

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have compiled a file that comprises pen-pictures of about twelve people mentioned by charles taze russell in his publications.

  they either influenced russell, worked alongside him, or were influenced by him.

  from their pages, they bring us a better understanding of that intense period.. http://www.jwstudies.com/people_important_to_russell.pdf.

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  Doug Mason

  I have compiled a file that comprises pen-pictures of about twelve people mentioned by Charles Taze Russell in his publications. They either influenced Russell, worked alongside him, or were influenced by him. From their pages, they bring us a better understanding of that intense period.

  http://www.jwstudies.com/People_important_to_Russell.pdf

  I apologise for the size of the file (22 Meg), but that’s due to the nature of the material.

  I will appreciate corrections and pictures of any people that I could not locate.

  Doug
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  A site with many pictures

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i stumbled across a site that some might find useful.

  fortunately it's full of pictures, because the writing is in portuguese, so i bonmb out with the text.. scroll down the site as it contains many many pictures.. http://picasaweb.google.com/marcondestrajano/tjooutrolado#.

  one picture in english is:.

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  Doug Mason

  I stumbled across a site that some might find useful. Fortunately it's full of pictures, because the writing is in Portuguese, so I bonmb out with the text.

  Scroll down the site as it contains many many pictures.

  http://picasaweb.google.com/marcondestrajano/TJOOutroLado#

  One picture in English is:

  http://picasaweb.google.com/marcondestrajano/TJOOutroLado#5188528544472202578

  so I wonder who wrote it?

  Doug
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  What is the book she is singing from?

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sorry for such a mundane question, but there are many things i'm not into.. there is a picture on page 35 of the book, "what does the bible really teach".

  don't worry, i'm on top of the feeble rationale.

  i guess the book will be good in the recycling.. anyway, in this picture, the girl at the front is holding a book open.

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  Doug Mason

  Ann,

  You are lovely!

  I was wondering if the guy pointing with his finger was a self-portrait, giving a personal message.

  Doug
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  The story of two Creation stories

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the first two chapters of genesis provide two very different accounts of creation.. .

  firstly, they are contradictory.

  the sequence of genesis 1:1 2:4a is plants, animals, then man and woman, whereas the sequence of genesis 2:4b 25 is man, plants, animals, then woman.

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  Doug Mason

  PrimateDave,

  Yes, my copy of the NIV separates the two halves of Genesis 2:4, thus separating the end of the "first" story from the start of the "second" story.

  That book is most enlightening how it shows the two Flood stories, isn't it (pp. 54-59), again from both J and P.

  Doug
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  The story of two Creation stories

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the first two chapters of genesis provide two very different accounts of creation.. .

  firstly, they are contradictory.

  the sequence of genesis 1:1 2:4a is plants, animals, then man and woman, whereas the sequence of genesis 2:4b 25 is man, plants, animals, then woman.

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  Doug Mason

  bluegrass,

  While you might not be interested, for others I must apologise for an error in my reply to you.

  In my effort to keep my answer simple, I incorrectly identified Genesis 1 as from the Elohist (E) source, which of course it is not. The J (chapter 2) source was from a priest at Judah, with the contemporary E source was from the north, at Shiloh.

  The source of Genesis 1 from a later period, following the fall of the northern states of Israel, and is known as P

  Apologies.

  Doug